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Windows Vista Imitates Mac OS X Features @ CES
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Derek Currie
2006-01-05 20:50:18 UTC
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<http://www.nytimes.com/circuitsemail>

This afternoon the great David Pogue posted the following Circuits email
feature to subscribers. Mr. Pogue apparently made one error in his
article regarding 'window miniatures' in the new version of IE. I have
written him with the information I have posted after the article.

Share and Enjoy!

:-Derek
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Gates Unveils Next Version of Windows

Last night was opening night of CES, the Consumer Electronics Show that
packs 2,500 companies' booths into several million square feet of Las
Vegas exhibition space. I've agreed to walk all of it over the next four
days.

The highlight of opening night--OK, the only light--was the annual
keynote presentation by Bill Gates and his team. The talk opened with
mocked-up demos of the wizzy future, like Bill sitting down before a
triptych of 30-inch computer monitors that, as in the movie "Minority
Report," appeared to be nothing more than sheets of clear acrylic.
Everything in the future, we're assured, will work smoothly together,
never crash and never get viruses.

Then there was much self-congratulation about sales of the XBox, Media
Centers and other Microsoft initiatives. Overall, the keynote was long
on buzzwords (if the Microsofties said "functionality" or "compelling
content" ONE MORE TIME...) and short on humor; even the traditional
hilarious Bill-Gates-in-Vegas video was absent this year.

The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
The audience in the standing-room-only auditorium was treated to a show
of some features that hadn't been previously demonstrated. Here's an
annotated blow-by-blow:

* Transparent window edges. Well, it's true that Vista looks nicer than
any previous version of Windows. But I'm just not sure about the value
of transparent window edges. They're cool, sure; but exactly how many
times, in your work life, have you muttered, "Darn! If only I could see
just the part of the background window that's currently obscured by the
1/3-inch margin of the foreground window"?

* Widgets. Vista will let you summon, at the right edge of the screen,
widgets: single-purpose, single-window little programs. One's an egg
timer, one's a news ticker, and so on. It's a lot like the Dashboard in
Mac OS X (or the shareware Konfabulator that came before it), except
that apparently, you can't put the widgets anywhere on the screen you
like.

* 3-D application switcher. With a keystroke, Vista can present you with
a stacked deck of every window that's open on your machine, making it
easier to hunt through them for one particular window. It's a lot like
the Expose feature in Mac OS X, except that you don't get to see all of
the windows simultaneously; you have to walk through them one at a time
with the mouse or keyboard.

* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.

* Photo organization. Some limited photo editing is now built into
Vista's photo browser, which couldn't look more like Apple's iPhoto
program if you ran it through a copying machine.

If I seem to be laying on the "stolen from Apple" language a bit thick,
you're darned right. Ordinarily, I'm careful about making accusations
like this, because I know I'll get hammered by Apple bashers. But in
this case, there's not a shred of doubt: most of the features Microsoft
demonstrated last night were pure, unadulterated ripoffs from Mac OS X.
I could hear actual whispers of recognition from the audience around me.

Does it matter? Not really. The courts have established that you can't
copyright a software idea (only its code); besides, Apple occasionally
helps itself to Microsoft's ideas, too. Truth is, I use both Mac OS X
and Windows, and I'll be happy to have these features on both platforms.

Besides, there were a few Vista features that Microsoft apparently
dreamed up all by itself:

* Sideshow. This ("sideshow," not "slideshow") is an optional feature of
future, Vista-compatible laptops: an external L.C.D. screen that lets
you look up, for example, your calendar without actually having to boot
the thing up. Sideshow was displayed only briefly and without much
explanation, so that's about all we know.

* Slideshows with movies. The new Vista photo browser won't just show
still photos; it will also integrate your camera's video clips into the
slideshows.

* Stacks. In the new Windows Media Player, when you sort by Genre, your
albums' icons appear as piles of album covers, neatly grouped by kind of
music.

* Thumbnail tabbed browsing. Internet Explorer will finally get tabbed
browsing (a feature that Firefox, Safari and other browsers have had for
years), in which you can keep multiple Web pages open at once, all in
the same window; you switch from one to the next by clicking little
file-folder tabs at the top. But in the Vista browser, you can also view
all your tabbed Web pages as window miniatures, so that you can jump to
one according to what it looks like (rather than just its name). A great
idea.

Anyway, all of this will be nice to have, if it works and doesn't
require us all to buy new computers to run it.

But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more
stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups,
viruses, error messages and security holes.
-------------------

Derek sez: In the paragraph above called '* Thumbnail tabbed browsing'
Mr. Pogue apparently was not aware of the 'window miniatures' feature
having originated in the Mac OS X application OmniWeb by the OmniGroup.
Without having yet seen screen shots of this new IE feature, I have to
say that this is another Vista feature imitated from the Mac. To access
this feature in OmniWeb: Open a window. In the upper left corner is an
icon that lets you open the tabbed browsing sidebar drawer. At the top
of the sidebar drawer are two button icons that let you choose to view
your tabbed windows as a list, or as window miniatures, meaning that you
see miniature versions of each window in the sidebar.

As Mr. Pogue has points out, Apple is now resigned to being ripped off,
and has turned the tables by doing some ripping off of their own. Such
as, um, uh, oh yeah, you can swiftly change between user accounts using
a menu bar icon in the Finder. It has this great 3D cube effect when
changing desktops, something Microsoft has not yet imitated.
--
"To create a new standard it takes something that's not just a little bit
different. It takes something that's really new and really captures people's
imagination. And the Macintosh, of all the machines I have ever seen, is the
only one that meets that standard." -Bill Gates
MuahMan
2006-01-05 21:38:33 UTC
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Post by Derek Currie
<http://www.nytimes.com/circuitsemail>
This afternoon the great David Pogue posted the following Circuits email
feature to subscribers. Mr. Pogue apparently made one error in his
article regarding 'window miniatures' in the new version of IE. I have
written him with the information I have posted after the article.
Share and Enjoy!
Microsoft would be smart to copy exactly the few parts of OSX that are
decent. It will increase their strangle hold on the OS market world-wide and
make
Apple even less of a player than it already is in the computing world.

Apple = Archos
George Graves
2006-01-05 23:13:36 UTC
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Post by MuahMan
Post by Derek Currie
<http://www.nytimes.com/circuitsemail>
This afternoon the great David Pogue posted the following Circuits email
feature to subscribers. Mr. Pogue apparently made one error in his
article regarding 'window miniatures' in the new version of IE. I have
written him with the information I have posted after the article.
Share and Enjoy!
Microsoft would be smart to copy exactly the few parts of OSX that are
decent. It will increase their strangle hold on the OS market world-wide and
make
Apple even less of a player than it already is in the computing world.
Apple = Archos
Stranglehold is EXACTLY the right word. Funny to see you admit it
though. As for Apple becoming even less of a player than it already is
in the computing world, M$ couldn't afford to let that happen. What
would Gates & Co, do for their RD then?
--
George Graves
Jim Lee Jr.
2006-01-05 23:21:18 UTC
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Post by MuahMan
Microsoft would be smart to copy exactly the few parts of OSX that are
decent. It will increase their strangle hold on the OS market world-wide and
make Apple even less of a player than it already is in the computing world.
Apple = Archos
Take Zara's lead and dream on, Pratt.
--
Microsoft and Windoze: The combination that made computing dangerous.
Apple and OS X: The combination that made computing insanely great.
"VISTA" an acronym for the top five Windows problems: Viruses,
Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware.
As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care
zara
2006-01-05 21:44:49 UTC
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Post by Derek Currie
<http://www.nytimes.com/circuitsemail>
This afternoon the great David Pogue posted the following Circuits email
feature to subscribers. Mr. Pogue apparently made one error in his
article regarding 'window miniatures' in the new version of IE. I have
written him with the information I have posted after the article.
Share and Enjoy!
:-Derek
-----------
Gates Unveils Next Version of Windows
Last night was opening night of CES, the Consumer Electronics Show that
packs 2,500 companies' booths into several million square feet of Las
Vegas exhibition space. I've agreed to walk all of it over the next four
days.
The highlight of opening night--OK, the only light--was the annual
keynote presentation by Bill Gates and his team. The talk opened with
mocked-up demos of the wizzy future, like Bill sitting down before a
triptych of 30-inch computer monitors that, as in the movie "Minority
Report," appeared to be nothing more than sheets of clear acrylic.
Everything in the future, we're assured, will work smoothly together,
never crash and never get viruses.
Then there was much self-congratulation about sales of the XBox, Media
Centers and other Microsoft initiatives. Overall, the keynote was long
on buzzwords (if the Microsofties said "functionality" or "compelling
content" ONE MORE TIME...) and short on humor; even the traditional
hilarious Bill-Gates-in-Vegas video was absent this year.
The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
The audience in the standing-room-only auditorium was treated to a show
of some features that hadn't been previously demonstrated. Here's an
* Transparent window edges. Well, it's true that Vista looks nicer than
any previous version of Windows. But I'm just not sure about the value
of transparent window edges. They're cool, sure; but exactly how many
times, in your work life, have you muttered, "Darn! If only I could see
just the part of the background window that's currently obscured by the
1/3-inch margin of the foreground window"?
* Widgets. Vista will let you summon, at the right edge of the screen,
widgets: single-purpose, single-window little programs. One's an egg
timer, one's a news ticker, and so on. It's a lot like the Dashboard in
Mac OS X (or the shareware Konfabulator that came before it), except
that apparently, you can't put the widgets anywhere on the screen you
like.
* 3-D application switcher. With a keystroke, Vista can present you with
a stacked deck of every window that's open on your machine, making it
easier to hunt through them for one particular window. It's a lot like
the Expose feature in Mac OS X, except that you don't get to see all of
the windows simultaneously; you have to walk through them one at a time
with the mouse or keyboard.
* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
* Photo organization. Some limited photo editing is now built into
Vista's photo browser, which couldn't look more like Apple's iPhoto
program if you ran it through a copying machine.
If I seem to be laying on the "stolen from Apple" language a bit thick,
you're darned right. Ordinarily, I'm careful about making accusations
like this, because I know I'll get hammered by Apple bashers. But in
this case, there's not a shred of doubt: most of the features Microsoft
demonstrated last night were pure, unadulterated ripoffs from Mac OS X.
I could hear actual whispers of recognition from the audience around me.
Does it matter? Not really. The courts have established that you can't
copyright a software idea (only its code); besides, Apple occasionally
helps itself to Microsoft's ideas, too. Truth is, I use both Mac OS X
and Windows, and I'll be happy to have these features on both platforms.
Besides, there were a few Vista features that Microsoft apparently
* Sideshow. This ("sideshow," not "slideshow") is an optional feature of
future, Vista-compatible laptops: an external L.C.D. screen that lets
you look up, for example, your calendar without actually having to boot
the thing up. Sideshow was displayed only briefly and without much
explanation, so that's about all we know.
* Slideshows with movies. The new Vista photo browser won't just show
still photos; it will also integrate your camera's video clips into the
slideshows.
* Stacks. In the new Windows Media Player, when you sort by Genre, your
albums' icons appear as piles of album covers, neatly grouped by kind of
music.
* Thumbnail tabbed browsing. Internet Explorer will finally get tabbed
browsing (a feature that Firefox, Safari and other browsers have had for
years), in which you can keep multiple Web pages open at once, all in
the same window; you switch from one to the next by clicking little
file-folder tabs at the top. But in the Vista browser, you can also view
all your tabbed Web pages as window miniatures, so that you can jump to
one according to what it looks like (rather than just its name). A great
idea.
Anyway, all of this will be nice to have, if it works and doesn't
require us all to buy new computers to run it.
But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more
stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups,
viruses, error messages and security holes.
-------------------
Derek sez: In the paragraph above called '* Thumbnail tabbed browsing'
Mr. Pogue apparently was not aware of the 'window miniatures' feature
having originated in the Mac OS X application OmniWeb by the OmniGroup.
Without having yet seen screen shots of this new IE feature, I have to
say that this is another Vista feature imitated from the Mac. To access
this feature in OmniWeb: Open a window. In the upper left corner is an
icon that lets you open the tabbed browsing sidebar drawer. At the top
of the sidebar drawer are two button icons that let you choose to view
your tabbed windows as a list, or as window miniatures, meaning that you
see miniature versions of each window in the sidebar.
As Mr. Pogue has points out, Apple is now resigned to being ripped off,
and has turned the tables by doing some ripping off of their own. Such
as, um, uh, oh yeah, you can swiftly change between user accounts using
a menu bar icon in the Finder. It has this great 3D cube effect when
changing desktops, something Microsoft has not yet imitated.
And soon - after gates has stripped everything of value from Apple ----there
will only be Windows.
Jim Lee Jr.
2006-01-05 23:20:02 UTC
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And soon, after Gates has stripped everything of value from Apple, there
will only be Windows.
Dream on, Zara.
--
Microsoft and Windoze: The combination that made computing dangerous.
Apple and OS X: The combination that made computing insanely great.
"VISTA" an acronym for the top five Windows problems: Viruses,
Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware.
As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care
George Graves
2006-01-05 23:10:32 UTC
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In article
Post by Derek Currie
<http://www.nytimes.com/circuitsemail>
This afternoon the great David Pogue posted the following Circuits email
feature to subscribers. Mr. Pogue apparently made one error in his
article regarding 'window miniatures' in the new version of IE. I have
written him with the information I have posted after the article.
Share and Enjoy!
:-Derek
-----------
Gates Unveils Next Version of Windows
Last night was opening night of CES, the Consumer Electronics Show that
packs 2,500 companies' booths into several million square feet of Las
Vegas exhibition space. I've agreed to walk all of it over the next four
days.
The highlight of opening night--OK, the only light--was the annual
keynote presentation by Bill Gates and his team. The talk opened with
mocked-up demos of the wizzy future, like Bill sitting down before a
triptych of 30-inch computer monitors that, as in the movie "Minority
Report," appeared to be nothing more than sheets of clear acrylic.
Everything in the future, we're assured, will work smoothly together,
never crash and never get viruses.
That's nice. Too bad Gates & Co. can NEVER seem to ship such a system,
only demo one.
Post by Derek Currie
Then there was much self-congratulation about sales of the XBox, Media
Centers and other Microsoft initiatives. Overall, the keynote was long
on buzzwords (if the Microsofties said "functionality" or "compelling
content" ONE MORE TIME...) and short on humor; even the traditional
hilarious Bill-Gates-in-Vegas video was absent this year.
Mercy!
Post by Derek Currie
The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
The audience in the standing-room-only auditorium was treated to a show
of some features that hadn't been previously demonstrated. Here's an
* Transparent window edges. Well, it's true that Vista looks nicer than
any previous version of Windows. But I'm just not sure about the value
of transparent window edges. They're cool, sure; but exactly how many
times, in your work life, have you muttered, "Darn! If only I could see
just the part of the background window that's currently obscured by the
1/3-inch margin of the foreground window"?
Well, when you're a company to whom the word "innovate" means "steal" or
"copy", I guess its the best one can do.
Post by Derek Currie
* Widgets. Vista will let you summon, at the right edge of the screen,
widgets: single-purpose, single-window little programs. One's an egg
timer, one's a news ticker, and so on. It's a lot like the Dashboard in
Mac OS X (or the shareware Konfabulator that came before it), except
that apparently, you can't put the widgets anywhere on the screen you
like.
* 3-D application switcher. With a keystroke, Vista can present you with
a stacked deck of every window that's open on your machine, making it
easier to hunt through them for one particular window. It's a lot like
the Expose feature in Mac OS X, except that you don't get to see all of
the windows simultaneously; you have to walk through them one at a time
with the mouse or keyboard.
They can't even do a good job of stealing features.
Post by Derek Currie
* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
Well, sometimes, maybe, they get it right. I mean the law of averages....
Post by Derek Currie
* Photo organization. Some limited photo editing is now built into
Vista's photo browser, which couldn't look more like Apple's iPhoto
program if you ran it through a copying machine.
Heh-heh.
Post by Derek Currie
If I seem to be laying on the "stolen from Apple" language a bit thick,
you're darned right. Ordinarily, I'm careful about making accusations
like this, because I know I'll get hammered by Apple bashers. But in
this case, there's not a shred of doubt: most of the features Microsoft
demonstrated last night were pure, unadulterated ripoffs from Mac OS X.
I could hear actual whispers of recognition from the audience around me.
Does it matter? Not really. The courts have established that you can't
copyright a software idea (only its code); besides, Apple occasionally
helps itself to Microsoft's ideas, too. Truth is, I use both Mac OS X
and Windows, and I'll be happy to have these features on both platforms.
Yeah, but it would be nice if M$ actually did something to fix the
things wrong or clumsey in Windows, not just paint over the warts with
"borrowed" eye-candy.
Post by Derek Currie
Besides, there were a few Vista features that Microsoft apparently
* Sideshow. This ("sideshow," not "slideshow") is an optional feature of
future, Vista-compatible laptops: an external L.C.D. screen that lets
you look up, for example, your calendar without actually having to boot
the thing up. Sideshow was displayed only briefly and without much
explanation, so that's about all we know.
* Slideshows with movies. The new Vista photo browser won't just show
still photos; it will also integrate your camera's video clips into the
slideshows.
* Stacks. In the new Windows Media Player, when you sort by Genre, your
albums' icons appear as piles of album covers, neatly grouped by kind of
music.
* Thumbnail tabbed browsing. Internet Explorer will finally get tabbed
browsing (a feature that Firefox, Safari and other browsers have had for
years), in which you can keep multiple Web pages open at once, all in
the same window; you switch from one to the next by clicking little
file-folder tabs at the top. But in the Vista browser, you can also view
all your tabbed Web pages as window miniatures, so that you can jump to
one according to what it looks like (rather than just its name). A great
idea.
Anyway, all of this will be nice to have, if it works and doesn't
require us all to buy new computers to run it.
But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more
stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups,
viruses, error messages and security holes.
Among other things, yeah!
Post by Derek Currie
-------------------
Derek sez: In the paragraph above called '* Thumbnail tabbed browsing'
Mr. Pogue apparently was not aware of the 'window miniatures' feature
having originated in the Mac OS X application OmniWeb by the OmniGroup.
Without having yet seen screen shots of this new IE feature, I have to
say that this is another Vista feature imitated from the Mac. To access
this feature in OmniWeb: Open a window. In the upper left corner is an
icon that lets you open the tabbed browsing sidebar drawer. At the top
of the sidebar drawer are two button icons that let you choose to view
your tabbed windows as a list, or as window miniatures, meaning that you
see miniature versions of each window in the sidebar.
As Mr. Pogue has points out, Apple is now resigned to being ripped off,
and has turned the tables by doing some ripping off of their own. Such
as, um, uh, oh yeah, you can swiftly change between user accounts using
a menu bar icon in the Finder. It has this great 3D cube effect when
changing desktops, something Microsoft has not yet imitated.
--
George Graves
Tim Murray
2006-01-06 01:10:59 UTC
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Post by Derek Currie
The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
Now this ... if it's an actual quote ... is interesting, and I'm sure he took
care to choose is words carefully. When the December beta rolled out the
final was supposed to be by July. Another delay?
Derek Currie
2006-01-06 20:07:22 UTC
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Post by Tim Murray
Post by Derek Currie
The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
Now this ... if it's an actual quote ... is interesting, and I'm sure he took
care to choose is words carefully. When the December beta rolled out the
final was supposed to be by July. Another delay?
The net chatter I am hearing does not expect Vista to ship until early
2007.

You can bet that M$ are desperate to see how Mac OS X 10.5 will show up
Vista. I fully expect Jobs and Gates to play a waiting game to see who
releases first. Chances are, IMHO, Gates will wait until after MacWorld
2007.

Then again, M$ must be awfully damned embarrassed to be so many YEARS
late with Vista. If they act as they have in the past they will push out
a beta version of Vista and call it the 'final' version. They will then
clean up their mess with the usual service packs.


Question: What is the most dangerous thing Vista could have that might
actually compete directly with Mac OS X?

Answer: Real working, reliable, stable security.

Why? It would put the two operating systems on a par that is meaningful
to IT staff. At the moment only IT idiots deploy Windows (my opinion of
course). I call them idiots because Windows has the worst security of
any available operating system. Once Windows actually gains some decent
security, the intelligent IT staff who deploy Macs will have one less
critical excuse to not fall in with the herd/monopoly mentality. The
fact that Mac OS X had security comparable to Vista since version 10.0
won't make much of an impression.

Can Micro$oft pull it off? <<SUSPENSE!>>



Actually I'm just pulling your leg. I know perfectly well that Micro$oft
will find a way to screw up as usual. But Windows users can dream...

:-Derek
--
Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
<http://www.fortune.com/fortune/print/0,15935,1135298,00.html>
[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
Lefty Bigfoot
2006-01-06 04:41:11 UTC
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Derek Currie wrote
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Post by Derek Currie
Gates Unveils Next Version of Windows
[snip]
Post by Derek Currie
The highlight of opening night--OK, the only light--was the annual
keynote presentation by Bill Gates and his team. The talk opened with
mocked-up demos of the wizzy future, like Bill sitting down before a
triptych of 30-inch computer monitors that, as in the movie "Minority
Report," appeared to be nothing more than sheets of clear acrylic.
Everything in the future, we're assured, will work smoothly together,
never crash and never get viruses.
So OS X will dominate then? That's great news.

[snip]
Post by Derek Currie
The best part was a demonstration of Windows Vista, the next version of
Windows, which Microsoft still says it will ship before the end of 2006.
The audience in the standing-room-only auditorium was treated to a show
of some features that hadn't been previously demonstrated. Here's an
* Transparent window edges. Well, it's true that Vista looks nicer than
any previous version of Windows. But I'm just not sure about the value
of transparent window edges. They're cool, sure; but exactly how many
times, in your work life, have you muttered, "Darn! If only I could see
just the part of the background window that's currently obscured by the
1/3-inch margin of the foreground window"?
A fair point, however, I can testify that the complete LACK of
window borders, transparent or otherwise in OS X is visually
tiring for some reason. I really don't like it. I wish it were
more like a conventional GUI in that regard. But, at least it's
stable.
Post by Derek Currie
* Widgets. Vista will let you summon, at the right edge of the screen,
Why not make the location configurable?
Post by Derek Currie
widgets: single-purpose, single-window little programs. One's an egg
timer, one's a news ticker, and so on. It's a lot like the Dashboard in
Mac OS X (or the shareware Konfabulator that came before it), except
that apparently, you can't put the widgets anywhere on the screen you
like.
Then it's exactly like Konfabulator then. Pity that both Apple
and Microsoft have screwed them over.
Post by Derek Currie
* 3-D application switcher. With a keystroke, Vista can present you with
a stacked deck of every window that's open on your machine, making it
easier to hunt through them for one particular window. It's a lot like
the Expose feature in Mac OS X, except that you don't get to see all of
the windows simultaneously; you have to walk through them one at a time
with the mouse or keyboard.
It's eye candy, but requires a smoking video card for it to work
well. That's to keep the hardware vendors happy, while
pretending they are doing you (the customer) a favor.
Post by Derek Currie
* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
Wow. I wonder where they got that idea?
Post by Derek Currie
* Photo organization. Some limited photo editing is now built into
Vista's photo browser, which couldn't look more like Apple's iPhoto
program if you ran it through a copying machine.
I hope it's more stable. Oh wait, it's windows. It'll be less
stable. Relative to iPhoto, that's quite an accomplishment.
Post by Derek Currie
If I seem to be laying on the "stolen from Apple" language a bit thick,
you're darned right. Ordinarily, I'm careful about making accusations
like this, because I know I'll get hammered by Apple bashers. But in
this case, there's not a shred of doubt: most of the features Microsoft
demonstrated last night were pure, unadulterated ripoffs from Mac OS X.
I could hear actual whispers of recognition from the audience around me.
I'm surprised the Windows crowd didn't just think it was all
brand new magic.
Post by Derek Currie
Does it matter? Not really. The courts have established that you can't
copyright a software idea (only its code); besides, Apple occasionally
helps itself to Microsoft's ideas, too. Truth is, I use both Mac OS X
and Windows, and I'll be happy to have these features on both platforms.
I used to, until I realized that I don't have any need for
Microsoft anymore. After the "active code" in WMV design flaw
thing, I want no part of a company that freaking stupid. As if
active code in email wasn't bad enough.
Post by Derek Currie
Besides, there were a few Vista features that Microsoft apparently
* Sideshow. This ("sideshow," not "slideshow") is an optional feature of
future, Vista-compatible laptops: an external L.C.D. screen that lets
you look up, for example, your calendar without actually having to boot
the thing up. Sideshow was displayed only briefly and without much
explanation, so that's about all we know.
Then it's not shut down. It's just another ACPI sleep state
most likely.
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* Slideshows with movies. The new Vista photo browser won't just show
still photos; it will also integrate your camera's video clips into the
slideshows.
ZZZZzzzz
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* Stacks. In the new Windows Media Player, when you sort by Genre, your
albums' icons appear as piles of album covers, neatly grouped by kind of
music.
Wow. That'll make the music so much more exciting to listen to.
Post by Derek Currie
* Thumbnail tabbed browsing. Internet Explorer will finally get tabbed
browsing (a feature that Firefox, Safari and other browsers have had for
years), in which you can keep multiple Web pages open at once, all in
the same window; you switch from one to the next by clicking little
file-folder tabs at the top. But in the Vista browser, you can also view
all your tabbed Web pages as window miniatures, so that you can jump to
one according to what it looks like (rather than just its name). A great
idea.
If you have the screen real-estate to spare.
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Anyway, all of this will be nice to have, if it works and doesn't
require us all to buy new computers to run it.
Guess what, that isn't the case. The hardware requirements are
MUCH higher than XP.
Post by Derek Currie
But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more
stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups,
viruses, error messages and security holes.
good luck. Some of them are designed into standard Microsoft
product features. Clueless dolts.
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Lefty
All of God's creatures have a place..........
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Tim Smith
2006-01-06 10:53:43 UTC
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* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
Wow. I wonder where they got that idea?
They had it before Apple did. Apple just got it into a *released*
product first.
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--Tim Smith
Lefty Bigfoot
2006-01-06 13:45:52 UTC
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* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
Wow. I wonder where they got that idea?
They had it before Apple did. Apple just got it into a *released*
product first.
IOW, Apple got there first. Announcing and idea and getting it
working properly are too different things.

I hereby announce the ray gun and the home-size teleporter and
personal holodeck entertainment system will be shipping real
soon now. If anyone beats me to the market with them, they're
ripping me off.
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Lefty
All of God's creatures have a place..........
.........right next to the potatoes and gravy.
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Alan Baker
2006-01-06 19:25:19 UTC
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Post by Derek Currie
* Global, fast search. Vista can now find words in any of your files,
quickly and easily, just like the Spotlight feature of Mac OS X.
Wow. I wonder where they got that idea?
They had it before Apple did. Apple just got it into a *released*
product first.
Ummmmm... not necessarily.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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